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1. Thomas

   I’m curious about a number of things on there, but the biggest one that leaps out is why you have chosen Ringworld Engineers, but not Ringworld? Concern perhaps at the instability of the Ringworld (for context http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworld#Errors)?

   Anyway, looks like a great list. I’ve read a fair number of these, but by no means a large number of them. I’m feeling somewhat compelled to fill in a few of these gaps, myself.

   Sep 21st, 2012

2. samn

   Check out Zoo City or Moxyland by Lauren Beukes if you need more choices from 2000-present.

   Sep 21st, 2012

3. Thomas

   PS. re the title change – I honestly didn’t even catch it, assumed it was some reference I just wasn’t getting. ;~)

   Sep 21st, 2012

4. Colin

   Re: Hyperion cantos of Dan Simmons; you have Hyperion, Endymion, and Rise of Endymion, but you’re missing “Fall of Hyperion” (vol 2 or 1B, depending on how you look at it).

   Re: Heinlein “YA”–no Starship Troopers?

   Sep 21st, 2012

5. Alex Miller

   Your mid-century selections are SHOCKINGLY devoid of Theodore Sturgeon, one of my favorite writers period. It’s hard to go wrong with any of his story collections, but I’d pick E Pluribus Unicorn as one with a near-perfect set of stories – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_Pluribus_Unicorn

   Something reminds me of a story in this collection about once a month even though I last read it 15 years ago.

   These books used to be relatively hard to find but have since been collected and republished in giant volumes of awesomeness with expansive notes. But I still like the musty old versions. :)

   Sep 21st, 2012

6. starwed

   “Hardboiled Wonderland…” was written in 1985, and published in English in 1991.

   That actually does matter a bit when contextualizing the novel, in terms of technological/scientific development since then. :)

   Sep 21st, 2012

7. Alex

   You’ve got “The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle” on your list, but “Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World” is more of a sci-fi Murakami novel and also is arguably better. (You could just read them all though, they’re pretty good)

   Sep 21st, 2012

8. Matthew Wyatt

   Why do you have the first two volumes of the Book of the New Sun, but not the 3rd (Sword of the Lictor) or 4th (Citadel of the Autarch)? I also liked Urth of the New Sun, but I don’t know that it’s as necessary. At any rate, you shouldn’t stop after Claw of the Conciliator – that’s only halfway through the story!

   Sep 21st, 2012

9. Simon

   If your intent is to ‘start at the beginning of sci-fi’, you should go back a few thousand years and include the bible (amongst other sci-fi works from the period).

   Despite you saying you don’t care that you have non-sci-fi books on your list of sci-fi books you want to read, Quicksilver (or rather the entire Baroque Cycle) is a truly superb read, but isn’t sci-fi by any stretch. Replace it with his subsequent book Anathem – it’ll save you about a million words of reading, too. :)

   Good to see the presence of (at least) one Iain M Banks novel – they’re all good, and UOW particularly so from memory. Feels like you need a few more PKD’s in there, especially his short stories – the lack of author on each title makes it hard to scan though.

   Sep 21st, 2012

10. Matthew Wyatt

    Similarly, why only Quicksilver, and not The Confusion and The System of the World from The Baroque Cycle? (Don’t mean to nag, Wolfe and Stephenson are my two favorite authors.)

    Sep 21st, 2012

11. GASP

    I’d definitely recommend the “Ender” series (Orson Scott Card) to be added to your list – at the very least Ender’s Game, the others in the series didn’t have the impact that Ender’s Game did, but they’re still good reads.

    Sep 21st, 2012

12. Karl

    I highly recommend adding Enders Game to the list

    Sep 21st, 2012

13. Frank LoVecchio

    I’d recommend a serial story printed in IF magazine in the 50′s/60′s over the course of a few months – The Reefs of Space. It’s one of my favorites to this day!

    Sep 21st, 2012

14. citizen428

    You might want to add Metagame (http://www.amazon.com/MetaGame-ebook/dp/B003LSTK7C) and Moxyland (http://www.amazon.com/Moxyland-Angry-Robot-Lauren-Beukes/dp/0857660047) to the 2010+ list.

    Sep 21st, 2012

15. Gabriel C

    What about 1932 Huxley’s “Brave New World” ?

    Sep 21st, 2012

16. fogus

    @lockney

    I skipped Ringworld on this list because I’ve read it before. I left the remaining sequels because I plan to decide on them after reading RW Engineers.

    Sep 21st, 2012

17. Robert

    I would highly recommend Accelerando by Charles Stross.

    Sep 21st, 2012

18. fogus

    @samn

    Thanks, Moxyland looks nice. Added.

    Sep 21st, 2012

19. bnewbold

    Strongly recommend “The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect”, posted free online in 2002, now with a cult following: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Metamorphosis_of_Prime_Intellect

    Sep 21st, 2012

20. Peter

    I’m assuming Red Mars was left off the list because you’ve already read it, since Green and Blue are already on there, but if not, you’ll have an interesting time stepping into that worl in medias res…

    Sep 21st, 2012

21. Dylan S.

    Might I also suggest Ender’s Game and “Do android dream of electric sheep” from Philip K. Dick, who later inspired the great movie “Blade Runner”.

    Also Farenheit 451 and The Chilhood’s End

    Sep 21st, 2012

22. Anon

    I would add Ender’s Game and The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Heinlein.

    Sep 21st, 2012

23. fogus

    @Colin

    Added Fall of Hyperion as it was an oversight. I’ve already read Starship Troopers and much of the rest of Heinlein.

    Sep 21st, 2012

24. fogus

    @puredanger

    Added E Pluribus Unicorn… how could I resist the title alone?!

    Sep 21st, 2012

25. fogus

    @starwed

    Thanks for the correction. Part of my goal in reading in order is to see the evolution of scifi, so order is important to me.

    Sep 21st, 2012

26. fogus

    @matthew_yatt

    I’ll probably read the full Book of the New Sun series, but will defer decision until I finish the first two.

    Sep 21st, 2012

27. fogus

    @Simon

    Point noted on Quicksilver – I might take it out so that I can read it whenever instead of waiting a few years to catch up to it on this list.

    As for PKD, I think I’ve read most already.

    Sep 21st, 2012

28. fogus

    @GASP

    I’ve read the Ender’s series up to CotM, which is on my list. I don’t think I’ll go down the “Bean path”.

    Sep 21st, 2012

29. pete

    Good list I think Accelerando should replace Glass House though, and Hardboiled Wonderland and the End of the World came out in 1985. Your 90′s and 00′s sections could use a bit of work. Also you should have more rudy rucker and some earlier vinge stuff …may

    Sep 21st, 2012

30. Clinton Dreisbach

    I can definitely recommend Alas, Babylon by Pat Frank, The Forever War by Joe Haldeman, and (especially) The Fifth Child by Doris Lessing. Both Haldeman — who is still writing — and Lessing are favorites of mine. If you’re reading out of order, I have some special favorites above: Alfred Bester and Ursula LeGuin.

    Sep 21st, 2012

31. fogus

    @LoVecchio

    Thanks for the recommendation. My list is a bit slim on the short-story collections. If I decide to add more then The Reefs of Space will be included.

    Sep 21st, 2012

32. fogus

    @citizen48

    You’re the second to recommend Moxyland… added. :-)

    Sep 21st, 2012

33. fogus

    @claramunt

    I’ve read Brave New World already.

    Sep 21st, 2012

34. fogus

    @peterkosa

    I’ve read Accelerando before, as for Vinge and Rucker I’m open for suggestions.

    Sep 21st, 2012

35. fogus

    @Robert

    I’ve read Accelerando recently.

    Sep 21st, 2012

36. yipyip

    If you haven’t already, be sure to read Red Mars before Green and Blue Mars. It’s a trilogy after all, and personally I like that one best of the three. The sense of place and atmosphere is overwhelming at times.

    Sep 21st, 2012

37. fogus

    @bnewbold

    Yours is the second recommendation for Prime Intellect… added. :-)

    Sep 21st, 2012

38. fogus

    @petercombs

    Yes, I’ve already read Red Mars.

    Sep 21st, 2012

39. fogus

    @dylan_s

    I’ve read those before and liked them tremendously.

    Sep 21st, 2012

40. fogus

    @anon

    Great books indeed. I loved them both.

    Sep 21st, 2012

41. carlo

    You might wanna add Embassytown by China Miéville.

    Sep 21st, 2012

42. fogus

    @clinton

    I liked Forever War when I read it and considered adding it as a re-read. I’ve added Alas, Babylon and saved Fifth Child for the “Horror Ketchup” list. :-)

    Sep 21st, 2012

43. Bryan Erickson

    Needs more Alastair Reynolds besides Revelation Space. Trust me. At least Chasm City and House of Suns.

    Sep 21st, 2012

44. fogus

    @carlo

    Added Embassytown.

    Sep 21st, 2012

45. fogus

    @yipyip

    I agree about the atmosphere of Red Mars, it was a very good book.

    Sep 21st, 2012

46. fogus

    @bryan_erickson

    Chasm City sounds great! Added.

    Sep 21st, 2012

47. Bodil

    This list needs moar Charlie Stross. Glasshouse is, imo, not as good a read as Accelerando, and Accelerando is one of his earlier singularity-fic works. At the very least, add Saturn’s Children to the list, but his long-running Laundry and Merchant Princes series also need recommending (though the Laundry books are hardly sci-fi).

    Sep 21st, 2012

48. Josh Rehman

    No Diamond Age or Snow Crash? What about Dune, or even the remarkable “The Jesus Incident” (if you like Herbert)? And what about Assimov? No Robot’s of Dawn? No Foundation series?

    Sep 21st, 2012

49. Josh Rehman

    And you’ve got to have something from Le Guin and Bujold on the list – the Left Hand of Darkness, and the first Miles Vorkosigan book would do nicely.

    Sep 21st, 2012

50. fogus

    @bodil

    Weird, I have Saturn’s Children written in my notebook, but it didn’t make the transfer. Added. I’ve read Accelerando before, but many people have recommended it for a re-read.

    Sep 21st, 2012

51. fogus

    @josh_rehman

    I’ve read all that you list, except for Snow Crash, which is on the list.

    Sep 21st, 2012

52. Cullen King

    Hey @fogus, I’ve read many of these and I do have a few inputs as to order, or works by the same author that are better…

    Snow Crash should be at top of the list for the 90′s, it’s just such a seminal work.

    If you only get around to one alastair reynolds book, I recommend House of Suns over Chasm City or Revelation Space. HoS is much more…complete, meaning you won’t be distracted by characterizations etc.

    Fire Upon the Deep – feel free to skip it :) I just read it last week, and while it has some cool concepts as far as hive-ish minds go, it’s basically just a book about intrigue.

    Sep 21st, 2012

53. fogus

    @josh_rehman

    I have some Le Guin listed, but am open for more suggestions. I’ve not read Bujold before because I was hesitant to dive into a sprawling epic. Anything that you could recommend that’s not part of her large series?

    Sep 21st, 2012

54. fogus

    @cullen_king

    Added House of Suns. As for ordering, I will probably do as you say WRT Snow Crash, and may skip ahead to read it soon.

    Sep 21st, 2012

55. Allen Varney

    Jack Vance’s best science fiction novel is probably Emphyrio (1969; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emphyrio ), though some might recommend his Planet of Adventure series or To Live Forever (1956). Vance’s hardest hard-sf science fiction novel is one of my favorites, The Blue World (1966; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blue_World ).

    Re Kornbluth: You’ve already listed The Space Merchants. The rest of Kornbluth’s best work is at shorter lengths, so look for a good collection, like the 1977 Del Rey “Best of” volume.

    Sep 21st, 2012

56. fogus

    @varney

    Thank you for the Vance recommendations! I’ve not read Emphyrio and Blue World. Added both. I think I need to add some anthologies soon.

    Sep 21st, 2012

57. Harvey

    I would recommend adding Interface by Stephen Bury.

    Sep 21st, 2012

58. BillSaysThis

    Surprised you don’t seem to have any Spider Robinson (from his great ’70s period, especially the punny Callahan’s Saloon series) or Peter F. Hamilton (Night’s Dawn trilogy remains among my ATFs but some folks prefer the Commonwealth Saga/Void Trilogy set, either way thousands of pages of reading pleasure).

    Sep 21st, 2012

59. fogus

    @BillSaysThis

    Spider Robinson is one of those authors that I’ve heard a ton about, but for some reason never got around to reading (see also Bujold). Added a couple.

    Sep 21st, 2012

60. Rasputnik

    Altered carbon, maybe Sun of Suns. Nice to see BlindSight on there, that’s a wonderful read.

    Sep 21st, 2012

61. MIke Monette

    +1 on the Miéville. I haven’t yet been disappointed by anything I’ve read from him. I’ll recommend Cloud Atlas (quick, before the movie comes out!) and The Yiddish Policemen’s Union (really only barely sci-fi, but still a good read). If you’re looking for a single-author short story collection, Stories of Your Life and Others by Ted Chiang is excellent. Chiang only writes short fiction, and he does it well. I was going to recommend Zelazny’s Amber series, but I’ll wait to see if it shows up on the fantasy ketchup.

    Sep 21st, 2012

62. SI Hayakawa

    Stranger in a Strange Land by Heinlein. Also, as already suggested, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

    Sep 21st, 2012

63. fogus

    @hayakawa

    I’ve read both and loved them.

    Sep 21st, 2012

64. MaysonL

    Under Heinlein juveniles, you MUST add Citizen of the Galaxy, and should also add Between Planets, Tunnel in the Sky,, Time for the Stars, and Starman Jones.

    Sep 21st, 2012

65. Dave Minter

    Can’t resist recommending Lem’s “Tales of Pirx the Pilot”, “More tales of Pirx the Pilot”, and then “Fiasco” – in that order or (if you only read one) just “Fiasco”.

    Sounds like a fun reading project – bearing in mind Sturgeon’s Law…

    Sep 21st, 2012

66. F_D

    Given your replies to other suggestions, I’m going to assume that Ubik isn’t on here because you’ve read it already.

    Also: Against a Dark Background.

    Sep 21st, 2012

67. Nicholas

    You need all the original Dune novels, not just Chapterhouse.

    Sep 21st, 2012

68. Michael

    You may want to pick up a copy of ‘Armor’ by John Steakley. It is an excellent example of Military Sci-Fi.

    Sep 21st, 2012

69. Miramon

    Many of these are indeed classics, but IMO this list concentrates too heavily on some mediocre authors, and completely passes up some great ones.

    For example, focusing on 1900-1940:

    Add some James Branch Cabell and H. P. Lovecraft to the mix — say Jurgen and the Dream-Quest for Unknown Kadath. Also consider E. R. Eddison and Lord Dunsany, though I think Dunsany isn’t as good as he’s cracked up to be. Doc Smith needs to be in there someplace — I’d recommend Galactic Patrol out of the Lensman series.

    Van Vogt isn’t that bad, if you choose carefully, but there’s no need to read two of his books when you’re passing up so many other better authors. Say the original Null-A book and skip the lame sequel(s). One ERB Mars book is more than enough, they’re not that great; replace with REH since you have no Conan.

    Moving on to the second half of the twentieth century, I can’t imagine why you’d want to read Chapterhouse: Dune. Stick with the original single novel, and skip the sequels which get progressively worse. Herbert had some much better books not in the Dune series.

    I won’t waste space seconding the better choices you have in this list; there are a great many of them.

    Sep 21st, 2012

70. fogus

    @F_D

    I loved Ubik. I added Against a Dark Background — sounds great.

    Sep 21st, 2012

71. fogus

    @Miramon

    I “skipped” most of your recommended books for this list only because I’ve already read them. I would probably list HPL and Dunsany as weird fiction, fantasy or horror in any case.

    Sep 21st, 2012

72. fogus

    @Nicholas

    Chapterhouse is the only one I’ve not yet read.

    Sep 21st, 2012

73. Mike

    Great list. I didn’t think of myself as being particularly into sci-fi, but I was struck by the number of them I’ve read.

    BTW, I think The Number of the Beast was published in 1980-ish. Must go read it again…

    Sep 21st, 2012

74. Miramon

    @71 — certainly HPL and Dunsany are fantasy writers, but many of the titles listed are only notionally SF.

    I mean, really Claw of the Conciliator is a theological fantasy that happens to be set in the distant future, and Darker Than You Think is a werewolf story given the thinnest and most superficial hand-waving veneer of quantum theory justification for the witches’ vulnerability to silver.

    But of course it’s up to you, and you might as well apply some kind of arbitrary choice criterion or you’ll never get past WW II…. Still, I think there is too much emphasis on some so-so authors on the list, considering how many other choices there are.

    Sep 21st, 2012

75. Leaf

    You’ve probably read them but Alfred Bester’s The Demolished Man and Tiger! Tiger! are great mid-century books.

    Sep 21st, 2012

76. Jim Oly

    I second the nomination for Diamond Age, though since you’ve mentioned reading other Stephenson, I assume it’s in the “already read” category. For Stross, I would add Halting State (and not just for being written in second person). I don’t see Vinge’s Across Realtime recommended enough, and you may want to throw in Rainbows End as well.

    Sep 21st, 2012

77. Jason P.

    Loving the choices. See some I’m going to add to my list. Thanks!! Here’s some other possibilities:

    I didn’t see any Charles Sheffield on there. Any of the Jupiter novels are good. But my personal favs of his are “Cold as Ice” and “The Ganymede Club”

    I notice you said you read all the original Dune series but Chapterhouse. I would recommend re-reading Heretics prior to reading Chapterhouse. In my mind they really should have been one book and IMO, when taken together, are the best of the series.

    Friday is a good addition to the Heinlein list.

    The Sleepless Series by Nancy Kress, starting with “Beggars in Spain”

    The Firestar series by Michael Flynn

    My all time favorite sci-fi book is “Heart of the Comet” by Brin and Benford.

    Sep 21st, 2012

78. Sam Medina

    Wow, that is one epic list…. Fon’t feel bad, I haven’t read most of those, either.

    Sep 21st, 2012

79. Shad

    I’d say that Rudy Rucker’s best novel is “Software”. I also really like “Spaceland”.

    Sep 21st, 2012

80. Bob Foster

    I hope you add Alfred Bester’s The Demolished Man to your list.

    Sep 21st, 2012

81. Adam

    I notice a few Iain M Banks books on there. You might want to add The Algebraist; it’s one of his better works, Hugo-nominated.

    Sep 21st, 2012

82. triffid-pruner

    Great list, heroic ambition. But — how about sharing your reaction after, or even while, reading each book. You could invite followers to read along, discuss. Would be fun.

    Sep 21st, 2012

83. me

    A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court isn’t worth it. It’s about the level of quality of a moderate fanfic. The premise is that the british are too dumb to live and all they need is someone to come in and exploit their resources properly. It’s a very weird read because most of the people in the story have no agency, they are just tools to the main character’s end.

    Sep 22nd, 2012

84. fp

    You missed Perdido Street Station by Chine Mieville. His best by far.

    Sep 22nd, 2012

85. Lance

    Doris Lessing’s Canopus in Argos series should be on that list. Beautiful SF by a literary heavyweight.

    Sep 22nd, 2012

86. Barnabas

    Georgia On My Mind, by Charles Sheffield

    Sep 23rd, 2012

87. Jean Azzopardi

    Nice list, will be considering a lot of these books.

    Anathem is definitely a must read. I also liked the Lost Fleet series (the battles are very well done indeed!)

    Otherland series is also a very good read (Virtual reality, AI.. it’s a bit like Snow Crash but on steroids!)

    Commonwealth Saga: still on the first book, but a fun read!

    Lost Fleet: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lost-Fleet-Dauntless-Book/dp/0857681303/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1348600660&sr=1-3

    Otherland: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Otherland-City-Golden-Shadow-Bk/dp/1857236041/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348600511&sr=8-1

    Commonwealth: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0330518917/

    Sep 25th, 2012

88. fogus

    @Azzopardi

    Thanks for the recommendations. I’ve read Anathem, but I will explore the rest.

    Sep 27th, 2012

89. fogus

    @triffid-pruner

    Folks interested can follow along on my Goodreads page at http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/266149-michael?format=html&shelf=super-awesome-scifi-catchup. I will post reviews from time to time and welcome any comments.

    Sep 27th, 2012

90. Derek Woolverton

    I would recommend some other classic space opera:

    Lensmen (and other EE Doc Smith) and Venus Equilateral

    Oct 10th, 2012

91. Derek Woolverton

    More from my top rated Goodreads list:

    Yarn (Jon Armstrong) Firestar (Michael Flynn) The Two Faces of Tomorrow (James P Hogan .. I love lots of his stuff) Cobra & Conqueror Series (Timothy Zahn) Hawksbill Station (Robert Silverberg) The Golden Age (John C Wright) Orion Shall Rise (Poul Anderson) Coyote (Allen Steele) Footfall (Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle) Fuzzies (H Beam Piper) To Ride Pegasus (Anne McCaffrey)

    Oct 10th, 2012

92. losgann

    Thanks for publishing this list. I’m looking for some new reading material (preferably hard science fiction). I noticed you didn’t have any James P. Hogan or Robert L. Forward titles in your list. Both have written excellent examples of the hard SF genre.

    Oct 10th, 2012

93. Andrew Ingram

    If you’re reading Alastair Reynolds, I found Pushing Ice to be his most inspiring novel, House of Suns a close second.

    Nov 29th, 2012

94. Nikhil

    You should definitely add more of Baxter’s Xeelee Sequence to the list, rather than reading The Time Ships. The sequence books are his defining work.

    Start with Vacuum Diagrams, after which you can read through Ring, Flux, Timelike Infinity and Raft (all 4 available together in an omnibus) or go for the Destiny’s Children sub-series – Coalescent, Resplendent, Transcendent and Exultant.

    Hard physics and some social commentary make a great combination. As do timescales of millions of years.

    Dec 27th, 2012

95. Tgr

    The Futurological Congress was written by Lem (Tichy is a fictional figure of his).

    Dec 31st, 2012

96. Bart

    cryptonomicon seems to be missing; for me the most enjoyable of the Stephenson books.

    May 19th, 2013

97. Ru

    @fogus, what about K. Vonnegut? There is non a single one of his books, and they’re amazing :)

    Start with The Sirens of Titan. Not his most famous work, but an incredible read.

    Jun 16th, 2013

98. fogus

    @Ru

    If it’s not on the list then you can assume that I’ve read it already. In fact, I love Vonnegut’s work… one of my open source projects was named Unk. :-)

    Jun 17th, 2013

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