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	<title>Comments on: Writing the Next Clojure Book</title>
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		<title>By: Rick Moynihan</title>
		<link>http://blog.fogus.me/2010/01/11/writing-the-next-clojure-book/comment-page-1/#comment-15677</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Moynihan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Fogus,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Firstly thanks for the acknowledgement, I&#039;m glad that my feedback was of some use to you...  Having dug through my emails it looks like in my discussions with Manning that they mixed up your proposal and table of contents with that of Amit Rathores Clojure in Action book.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Regardless, I&#039;m very excited by the material that you&#039;ve chosen to cover, and completely agree with others that what the Clojure community needs is an in depth Clojure book.  The topics you&#039;ve chosen to cover are everything I want to read about!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m especially glad to see that you&#039;re not making the mistake of covering lots of additional libraries and API&#039;s in superficial detail...  Cool as they may be; we want to learn how to use Clojure to build those API&#039;s and programs ourselves.  Your book looks like it&#039;ll deliver on this front.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Incidentally if you are to mention other API&#039;s then I think it might be nice where possible to explore how they themselves are built, and specifically how they leverage Clojure&#039;s features to maximum effect.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyway, I&#039;ll certainly be ordering a copy out of the MEAP soon!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fogus,</p>

<p>Firstly thanks for the acknowledgement, I&#8217;m glad that my feedback was of some use to you&#8230;  Having dug through my emails it looks like in my discussions with Manning that they mixed up your proposal and table of contents with that of Amit Rathores Clojure in Action book.</p>

<p>Regardless, I&#8217;m very excited by the material that you&#8217;ve chosen to cover, and completely agree with others that what the Clojure community needs is an in depth Clojure book.  The topics you&#8217;ve chosen to cover are everything I want to read about!</p>

<p>I&#8217;m especially glad to see that you&#8217;re not making the mistake of covering lots of additional libraries and API&#8217;s in superficial detail&#8230;  Cool as they may be; we want to learn how to use Clojure to build those API&#8217;s and programs ourselves.  Your book looks like it&#8217;ll deliver on this front.</p>

<p>Incidentally if you are to mention other API&#8217;s then I think it might be nice where possible to explore how they themselves are built, and specifically how they leverage Clojure&#8217;s features to maximum effect.</p>

<p>Anyway, I&#8217;ll certainly be ordering a copy out of the MEAP soon!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: fogus</title>
		<link>http://blog.fogus.me/2010/01/11/writing-the-next-clojure-book/comment-page-1/#comment-13671</link>
		<dc:creator>fogus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 00:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@no&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It would be difficult to write a better intro book than Halloway&#039;s.   This is why Chouser and I are trying to provide something deeper.  If you like the discussions on state, time, and identity then I think you&#039;ll like our book.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@no</p>

<p>It would be difficult to write a better intro book than Halloway&#8217;s.   This is why Chouser and I are trying to provide something deeper.  If you like the discussions on state, time, and identity then I think you&#8217;ll like our book.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: no</title>
		<link>http://blog.fogus.me/2010/01/11/writing-the-next-clojure-book/comment-page-1/#comment-13670</link>
		<dc:creator>no</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I also hope you both will not waste your talent and experience on yet another introduction, but concentrate on some specialized topics. I don&#039;t even care what these topics are (I would fully trust your choices), but I think a lot of people want a deeper book on Clojure. I&#039;ve been pretty much disappointed by Stuart Halloway&#039;s book since I already had a few month&#039;s worth of Clojure experience. If you somehow hit the philosophical angle of Rich&#039;s more recent presentation(s) about identity and state and their importance on design, I could not be happier.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also hope you both will not waste your talent and experience on yet another introduction, but concentrate on some specialized topics. I don&#8217;t even care what these topics are (I would fully trust your choices), but I think a lot of people want a deeper book on Clojure. I&#8217;ve been pretty much disappointed by Stuart Halloway&#8217;s book since I already had a few month&#8217;s worth of Clojure experience. If you somehow hit the philosophical angle of Rich&#8217;s more recent presentation(s) about identity and state and their importance on design, I could not be happier.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: fogus</title>
		<link>http://blog.fogus.me/2010/01/11/writing-the-next-clojure-book/comment-page-1/#comment-13598</link>
		<dc:creator>fogus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@rodjer&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can&#039;t speak for Let Over Lambda or the other new Clojure books as I have not read them.  However, if you&#039;re looking for advanced macrology then we will attempt to satisfy.  As for the version we will cover the latest version that exists prior to the book&#039;s final release which at the moment looks to be 1.2, but even if we release before then we&#039;ll be covering 1.2 features.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rodjer</p>

<p>I can&#8217;t speak for Let Over Lambda or the other new Clojure books as I have not read them.  However, if you&#8217;re looking for advanced macrology then we will attempt to satisfy.  As for the version we will cover the latest version that exists prior to the book&#8217;s final release which at the moment looks to be 1.2, but even if we release before then we&#8217;ll be covering 1.2 features.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: rodjure</title>
		<link>http://blog.fogus.me/2010/01/11/writing-the-next-clojure-book/comment-page-1/#comment-13585</link>
		<dc:creator>rodjure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 06:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No doubting the extreme quality of the Authors. However I had hoped for something different from the fourth clojure book but this seems too much like another &quot;me too&quot; clojure book. The basics have been explained in 3 books announced before this one (pragprog, apress, manning 1). I had hoped for something more hardcore perhaps at the level of a &quot;Let over Lambda&quot; for Clojure, advanced macrology stuff, leave out yet another explanation of the key Clojure features. Perhaps that&#039;s another book.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Which version of clojure is it going to be based on?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubting the extreme quality of the Authors. However I had hoped for something different from the fourth clojure book but this seems too much like another &#8220;me too&#8221; clojure book. The basics have been explained in 3 books announced before this one (pragprog, apress, manning 1). I had hoped for something more hardcore perhaps at the level of a &#8220;Let over Lambda&#8221; for Clojure, advanced macrology stuff, leave out yet another explanation of the key Clojure features. Perhaps that&#8217;s another book.</p>

<p>Which version of clojure is it going to be based on?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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